ALTHOUGH this is Liverpool’s worst start in Premier League history, Brendan Rodgers’ job seems safe, for now.
However, if we fail to finish even as high as our pitiful 8th last season then it’s possible that Brendan will not keep his job. In the event we are looking for a new manager at the end of the season (rather than in the middle of it) one man who will have finished his sabbatical is Pep Guardiola.
We may be far from Champions League certs at present but, call me a dreamer, if the Anfield job did become available I believe Pep would strongly consider it. And this is why.
Alternative clubs:
Pep will only consider a club of a certain size and stature. He’ll also prefer one of the top leagues (English, Spanish, German, or Italian). He won’t go back to La Liga, and the language barrier in Germany, and Bayern (8 points clear at the top at the time of writing) & Dortmund (Klopp is King) not looking like they’ll lose their managers, makes the Bundesliga unlikely as well.
Chelsea
Pep has said many times he wants a project. He’ll want somewhere he can grow a group of younger players and build a new legacy. He is a man of integrity and he would have viewed the dismissals of esteemed managers like Scolari and Ancelloti with concern. He’s already turned down Chelsea twice (according to Guillem Balague) and it would seem to go against his principles if he went to Stamford Bridge.
Man City
Roberto Mancini has done a terrific job at City. Regardless of the £100’s of millions spent on players, the facts show that Mancini delivered their first trophy since 1976 and followed it up with the Title soon after. They are challenging again for top honours and, despite consistent disappointments in the Champions League, Mancini is adored by City fans so he will most likely still be in charge at the beginning of next season.
Man Utd
Fergie has said only an experienced manager should succeed him when he retires and he recently had dinner with Pep in New York. Fergie hasn’t indicated he’s retiring at the end of the season but as they lead the table again and are looking strong in the Champions League, if he were to win both, or even one, he may well be happy to pass on the mantle. The smart money though is on Fergie hanging around for a couple more years at least.
AC Milan
A distinct possibility. A great club with great history, going through a difficult time (sound familiar?). They have lost (and are losing) reliable old timers and are putting their faith in talented youngsters like Al Shaarawy. Improving (including an excellent win against Juve) after an awful start to the season, if they don’t make the Champions League (or even if they do), they may make a change. Berlusconi may not be the Chairman you’d want, but Galliani is vastly experienced and the most successful CEO in European football.
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Inter Milan
Have struggled since Mourinho left in tears for Madrid. Five managers in the intervening time indicates that little time is given to rebuilding the horribly aged & spent (physically and mentally) squad Jose left behind. A tough job in tough circumstances but Pep may fancy it. Chances are though he won’t want to go where the Special One has trod before.
Juventus
Doing very well, the Old Lady is unlikely to change even if they don’t win the league (which they are still favourites for).
Shalke, Roma, Napoli, Fiorentina, Lazio
I believe Pep will consider these to be in a second group of teams he may look at. Their sides may be stronger than ours at present but they cannot be compared to us in terms of fan base or pedigree.
That leaves Liverpool
• The magic that is Anfield and the great supporters
• The most successful English club in European competition
• A stable and improving financial situation with little debt burden, even if he won’t have a great deal to spend.
• The best group of young players of any Premier League club – our Under 21’s are the only undefeated team in top level U21 competition in England, and that’s without the likes of Sterling, Suso, Wisdom, Shelvey et al even playing!
• A real challenge (or ‘project’ as it is now called) to bring Liverpool back to the top
• More time than he would be given at Chelsea, City, either Milan clubs or Man United
• World Class players like Suarez, Gerrard and Reina plus other very talented players like Agger, Johnson and Lucas
• A Barcelona style methodology of pass and move that has been in place (more or less) since the 70’s, but has been especially prevalent since Rafa Benitez brought Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell to work with the youth teams.
• If Brendan does fail then he will nevertheless have left a team that is trying to play football in the right manner
I hope Brendan succeeds. I hope our team comes together sooner rather than later to turn draws into wins and climb the table. I hope we are able to close that 7 point gap to fourth and by the end of the season qualify for Europe’s elite competition (bearing in mind we may have to finish 3rd to do so).
But if we don’t, and Brendan doesn’t stay, then I think Pep Guardiola could do a lot worse than taking up the Anfield helm.
You can catch more from me on my own blog: http://taintlessred.blogspot.co.uk/
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I think he will be at man u at some stage :(….but i would love it if he did end up with us. I think he is a smart enough man and will avoid Chelsea, that club (owner) have a reputation of getting rid of managers if they win something 😉
If he does consider going to Man U then I doubt it will be next season as Fergie has no plans to retire. If that is the case he’ll still need a club next season, and while he would have his pick many of the big clubs aren’t as enticing given their present predicaments.
I loled very loud when reading this article. Thanks
What a waste of words.
I don’t think Shankly talked in ‘ifs’, it was positivity all the way.
I don’t think this article is helpful, either to the manager and players, or to Liverpool fans. Liverpool fans were known for getting behind the manager, but not anymore it seems. Pointing out Liverpool’s failings does nothing for the morale of the fans. Yes, you plan for the future, but you don’t do it after one transfer window and not even half way through the season imho.
Yes, Guardiola did great things at Barca, but he had a great set up to take over, and the greatest player in the World, plus many other great players to choose from. He needs to choose his next club carefully.
And if Rodgers isn’t given time, (which I think and hope he will be) why would Guardiola be given more time at Liverpool? We’re going through managers almost as quickly as Chel$ki. 😉
I very much hope that Brendan succeeds as well, however I doubt if FSG would keep Brendan if we don’t better last season’s league position. If that is the case (and I hope it isn’t), then I believe Guardiola would be interested in the job . Even more so because his other ‘options’ aren’t really options at all, that was part of the reason for writing the article.
FSG wont pay Guardiolas wages . Thats why we are stuck with Rodgers – he was the cheap option
So taintless , if we finish worse than 8th , u still want to keep Rodgers ?
What is wrong with u ? Are u happy for Liverpool to be sh*te ?
No, what I meant is that I hope we don’t finish worse than 8th. ‘if’ we do then BR can’t complain if he loses his job. Whether I want BR to stay or not depends on 1) our league position at the “end” of the season and 2) the quality and style of our football during the season.
I honestly think it is a possibility and one that i had hopes as well. But i don’t it’s an option the stupid yanks would consider, one thing being the affordability, while Rodgers might be on beggars money,a coach of pep’s caliber is likely to be very expensive, especially with all the frentic competition to get him.
I’d really hate to see toothless and incompetive BR for the long haul, Guardialo’s a very brave coach and a brilliant tactician. Even with the sort of squad he had at Barca, he was never content, always experimenting and improving things, though sometimes it could lead to his biggest mistakes as well. But yes would welcome him with open arms
I’m glad you agree Micah, though I would like BR to be given at least a full season and be judged – he does keep saying we’ll improve in the 2nd half of the season and I tend to agree with him, especially if we make some decent offensive signings. Whether we will finish high enough to please FSG, or indeed us fans, is another matter.
I dont care who we get as long as the grossly incompetent Rodgers is gone ASAP
Guardiola would be good choice though
Why don’t you f**k off across Stanley park or down to the Bridge…. I can’t believe people are reading this s**t and taking it in. There are no quick fixes in football, even fergie took about 4 years to make his mark and was on the verge of getting sacked before things started to go his way. Rodgers stated that success would take time and FSG were aware of that when they hired him so it is unlikely they will sack him. He will have more chance of achieving his goals with our backing than without it so let’s get behind him and stop writing and applauding stupid B.S. articles like this. Finally consider this if we did sack B R after one season we would share chelsea’s reputation for sacking managers and if as this crap states that reputation would put Pep off going to them then he certaintly would think twice before coming to us.
I cant believe ANY ‘fan’ has support for Rodgers . The guy is completely out of his depth , has made poor choices at every opportunity , is ruining our squad by bringing in rubbishy average crap players . and is boring us with his sideways boring football
the youth like Sterling will not want to stay long term when we are struggling with a fool in charge
+ we have no hope of attracting any top players with a fool like Rodgers keeping us down in mid table
it HASNT WORKED – Rodgers has made us a joke . the only people who want Rodgers at LFC are mancs or chelski fans . Which one are you ?
and if we dont sack him ,we are saying to the world – we are happy being mediocre
spot on tommo
First off, which one am I? Chelsea or manc?……… I am a 49 year old who started supporting the Reds when I used to sit with my Grandad listening to games on the radio when I was about 4 years old. I Have been a season ticket holder for 22 years, followed the club all over the world, been to every European cup final except Rome in 77, don’t know how many times I’ve been to Wembley and when the good times ended I continued with my unflagging support through the bad times…… that’s who I am, who the f**k are YOU?
Secondly who was it that gave Sterling his chance when he took over a team that had only just the previous year spent 100 million on new players you f**king imbecile. I wish you were a Manc cos with people like you supporting them fergie would have been out of the door along with his dream of “knocking us off our perch”
As for BR making us a joke, we were a joke long before he arrived when we sacked Rafa (the last manager of any dignity we had) and replaced him with that idiot Roy Hodgson
As for it not working, we have gone 8 games in the league unbeaten, when was the last time that happened? You are just a bitter and twisted tw*t who for some reason has taken a dislike to the current manager. What’s next? will we see you and your kind on telly protesting and screaming for BR’s head?
what a choice it would be but i have trust in Brendan more than ever before.
only a fool trusts a fool
U must trust urself so simon
ooh so witty , never saw that coming . jj you are thick
Hear hear Bill
Baz your full of sh*te , you are a manc yes ?
Wishful thinking to have Pep . Wishful thinking to have anybody other than bullsh!t brendan in charge
Anyway , why would he want to come here , we have tight greedy owners who wouldn’t let him compete with top teams
Heres an idea…. why don’t all you moaning B*st*rds stop going to the games and let those people who want to support our club have your tickets? Everyone’s a winner!
why dont u fk off and support a mid table side and be patient with them . fool
Rodgers is not a proven manager , he was sacked by Reading for being useless , he is useless at Liverpool too . We need a top manager not a 2nd division one .
FSG should at least try for Guardiola now
Yep . Reading saw sense a lot sooner than we are . Reading had a ‘long term plan’ too , but they realised quickly than Rodgers is just a bullsh*tter . he bullsh*tted FSG to get the job . he has bullsh*tted the fans to make them support him
His ‘philosophy’ is bullsh*t . it cant work and wont work .
And even if it did work ( which it doesn’t ) , Do we want years of watching this sideways sideways backwards backwards sideways football ? its boring
anyone who believes his bull is a dreamer
And Reading went on to achieve what exactly?
promotion you moron !
I don’t really want to comment on this article, because it’s crap, but here goes anyway. It’s crap.
Love it roy
Hear! hear! Roy… read my reply to fiin above
Anyone is better than BR – anyone . lets get rid and approach pep or jose or rafa
Haha u obviously know nothing about how a club is run or anything about football in general u empty head!
BR i trust
Why ? why trust someone with no history of success . total failure at Reading , success at swansea with a side he inherited from Martinez . Disasterous start to Liverpool career
Why why why would anyone trust this loser ?
Because those oh so knowledgeable yanks tell u to ? kop on u fool
Give Brendan time I believe he will succeed let him get a good striker that will help Suarez we will be up the table……..every body know we did”nt start well but the end will be okay we shall have faith in him we are playing good football now
He has had time , look where he has got us . More time means more seasons wasted
This guy is a chump , not worthy of managing our reserves
pep wont ever sign for us..EVEN IF WE MANAGE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE(if that happens we wont BR let go is another case. ). see these guys pep,jose n all are good managers no doubt. but imagine had not it been roman abrahmovic’s (spell?) funds had jose been so successful?
im not saying that just money n not his managerial skills got him the trophies. but there is a big risk involved , taking job at likes of liverpool n also arsenal or spurs knowing the limited funds , and you can not just buy the agueros n ronaldos at your will. there is a risk which i dont think these guys want to take. they can easily go n sign city,chevesky,PSG ETC…get a already strong squad sign in some big talented players , win some trophies or 2 . just like manchini did at city n jose at chevesky & madrid n pep at barca .
BR is a nice man ,but he is not up to the job of managing a big club .
Guardiola is unrealistic but a replacement must be found soon . Personally i choose Rafa or Carra. BR must go !
I think FSG will give him until the end of the season admnd reassess. If he betters Kenny’s position, even 7th, I think he’ll stay, but if he’s worse then I think he’ll leave. If we finish 8th then it’ll probably depend on progress in cups, particularly Europe.
If we were to get rid of Rodgers, which I said earlier we shouldn’t do, what message does that send out to anybody we go after? Firstly, Liverpool being a stable club is gone. Secondly, like Chel$ki you will have an unstable time, especially if you’re not winning, but you will not be paid the megabucks to go to somewhere like Chel$ki, and you won’t get the money to be moved on either. So what’s the attraction? The name and prestige of the Liverpool name will only last for so long if we become just another hire and fire club with no money. (in comparison the rich top 4-5)
If Rodgers were to go I dread to think who we could end up with. Guardiola if he was a very, very brave man and was willing to work with relative buttons, but in reality no. We are seeing the Academy starting to bring players through, add to that a bit of very high quality, and the future could be bright. Bring in a big name and give them loads of money, and the young players won’t be given much of a chance as in the last 20 years or more.
stability ? stability is another word for patience , only the mid table teams with no ambition have stability . stability is fine if you have an excellent manager in place , rodgers is anything but . stability with rodgers means disaster , the guy is useless .
fact is , good managers bring results , bad ones are unable to . we need a good manager and then stability will come naturally
sack him now or sack him in 12 months ? result will be the same – starting again , i rather start now than endure a year of this dross
If we sack Rodgers the message we send out is – mid table is not acceptable for Liverpool FC – thats the message we should be sending out
People still defending Rodgers i see . Shame on u , u arent Liverpool fans !
Pointless article anyway – No way Pep would come here
Some of you people are out-right idiots. A team that has been on the fast track to the sh*tter for 5-6 years now, and in one window, and less than half a season, we’re going to sack a manager who has plenty of work to do?
You spoiled little brats. Acting like LFC owes you something. Like they should sack someone because you whiners want better, when you wouldn’t give anyone else a chance either. You would just whine about the new guy not producing results, all the while, you continue to ignore the fact that the club needs rebuilding from the ground up.
At least Rodgers has a vision. He’s re-vamping the youth system, and making sure we play a consistant brand of football throughout the ranks, the same way Barca has done with La Masia. It takes years to get to that level, but the foundations are being laid.
The hiring of Inglethorpe is big. We have solid management to develop the youth ranks, which will save on transfer fees and wages, by producing talent at home, rather than buying it from abroad at inflated prices.
Slag FSG for their lack of support with funds, because that’s fair. But being a North American (Canadian, to be exact), maybe I see a familiarity with how this club is being built, and the way we typically build winning franchises here in NA. It’s about strengthening every aspect, from coaching and development, to your prospect pipeline, scouting, etc. FROM THE GROUND UP. It doesn’t happen over night. Take a look at what the Detroit Red Wings did in the late 80’s, leading to today. Hired the right management, and coaches to develop talent, took their lumps, and became a dynasty, through patience, and smart management/ownership. Now, every player loves signing for Detroit, because the atmosphere around the club, fanbase, and their commitment to playing their brand of Hockey, and winning with it. They toiled in plenty of mediocrity prior to their rise.
The team has been robbed more than a few times (Man.U, City, Chelsea, to name a few), and with a little financial support, things will look MUCH different. *hit, if we had someone scoring consistantly besides Suarez, we probably have 7 or 8 MORE points than we do now. Tough decisions need to be made, sure. It may be time for Gerrard to start less, and take a role as an impact sub. It’s yime to cut bait with Downing and Cole, and use the (small) returns wisely, to add a promising young player up front (Delofeu from Barca fits this bill). Allow Suso to start working in the forward, CAM role, where his ability is suited well.
Bottom Line: Give the guy a little time and support, lest you want us with the same reputation as Chelsea, and continuing to spin our tires in the mud in terms of regaining prominence. We’ll get there, but it takes support, and patience. It’s hard to see the finished product at this point in a rebuild, but following the history of this style of project, it’s coming.
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LOL thats a lot of bullsh*t . u must be listening to the crap Rodgers comes out with
Ifs and buts and lots of excuses thrown in too .bullsh*t pure and simple
Another example of a clueless american when it comes to football
I would say by the nature of your posts, and the content of them, I’m not the one who’s clueless when it comes to football.
Take a look in the mirror, you ignorant pratt.
It is true . Americans believe everything their told . Dumb ass , stick to baseball
Wow. Two complete morons. And ignorant to the gills, to boot.
Neither of you seem to be able to read, nor spell. You missed the part where I’m actually Canadian.
You also missed the part where I provided actual insight into the issue, rather than just slag Rogers without backing any of your outrageous claims up with analysis.
For people who are supposed to be so on the up with the game, you couldn’t analyize or reason your way out of paper bags.
I’ll give you a tip: When someone doesn’t agree with you, don’t make yourself look like a dumb *wat, and try to knock them down because of their nationality. Try backing up your BS, with solid analysis, and maybe people will take your dumb asses seriously.
you say a lot benny , but its all crap . sorry
Wise words Bejnay, pity others don’t recognise them. :-/
The reason Rodgers is in charge is because there needed to be big changes, and the changes are not going to happen quickly, without throwing Man City/Chel$ki money at the situation.
We are playing better than the last year or two of Benitez’s reign.
I hope Rodgers will have the will to make some tough decisions. The Gerrard situation is starting to look more urgent every week. He’s looking chunkier and slower every week, and I doubt he could be an impact player.
Henderson, Downing, Cole and Carroll have to be got rid of, but that will be easier said than done. They also have to be replaced, and the money you would get for them may not pay for one quality replacement.
Liverpool fans have to be patient. We are playing in a time when we are not one of the wealthiest teams in the league, and the team has to be built a different way, with youth, and relatively cheaply. Changing managers every five minutes will guarantee that that plan won’t work.
Some Liverpool fans feel they have some power having contributed to getting rid of Hodgson, they need to get behind the team. All this petty dissent makes us no better than anyone else.
Rodgers needs at least two full seasons, and to have been some money to spend, to give him, and us, a chance imho.
Fell free to disagree. 🙂
Thanks!
I may have only begun watching LFC this year (We have a hockey lockout, so I had to find something), but I have more experience in this sort of rebuild than most, as it’s common practice in hockey (the sport I coach and manage in).
This process doesn’t happen over night, and to be honest, I watched A LOT of LFC games from last year, and to say there hasn’t been any improvement, is just a joke.
The unorganized garbage they put on the field on many occasions last year, looked like a team worthy of relegation. Listless, with no heart (outside of Gerrard).
People who hate Rogers just see what they want to. There’s not reasoning or arguing with them, because they won’t even consider what you have to say, even if you have the evidence to back it up.
Either way, we’ll see what happens in January. There’s no reason, that with support up front, this club can’t compete for top-6.
No surprise there , 1 year watching LFC , u are clueless
where s the evidence benny ? does 11th and out of 2 cups ( virtually ) look like an improvement to last year , or is your maths not good ?
15m spent on Allen -borini 11 – assaidi 3 – even sahin whatever we are paying him – all wasted on 2nd rate rubbish . I wouldn’t trust him with a fiver .Cant give this bum more money
So glad to see you two on here, I thought I was the only person on here who is a true fan who talks common sense as opposed to all these moaning w**kers who think they know a thing or two about managing a football team when they probably can’t even manage their pocket money without Mummies help
You do realise Bejnay that you write all that down ,and then say you dont know much about English football ????
Your right about one thing . You dont know much about English football – what you said makes no sense at all
So what?
So I’ve only watched football seriously for a year. Does that make me less a fan? Some of us weren’t raised on it. Not my fault. Can’t really say I started loving the team when we were winning, because if that was the case, you could call me a fairweather fan all you’d like.
I love the club for the same reasons you do.
If only you realised just how much you all sounded like the “fake american” you label me as. Sound just like Red Sox/Yankees fans.
this is pointless ..
1. pep wont sign for us any how not becoz we r struggling but considering both man city, n chevesky jobs are available .
2. and does pep guarantees SUCCESS ?
changing a manger whether its a wrong move or right is changing whole lot of stuff like staff,squad,manger itself(lol) paying the respective fees , new managers new signings as obvious he wont accept BR’S signing, he would demand his own . ALL THIS PROCESS IS SO MUCH WASTE OF MONEY?
if that much money is made available to BR i think he can take us back on track more quickly(he already has but slowly). just imagine how much money is been wasted from sacking rafa then hodgson then kenny ? we could have had much compatetive n stronger squad from that much money.
3. n lastly therE is no need to sack BR.for eg have you looked at spurs display ? under AVB they look so much confused n clumsy, had not been the individual brilliance of BALE n defou ..they would have been down. and the look at us..so much improvement has been made on the ground with such a thin squad? just a sharpshooter is needed in the box thats it , the goals would be flowing n look at the wing play , passing n all the stuff improving with each n every match..WHY THE f we should sack BR?
As the article says, there are a number of reason why Pep is very unlikely to take what will be the vacant Chelsea job in the Summer. It simply isn’t a fit with his way of working. The Man City job won’t be vacant. Mancini is loved by the fans and respected by the owners. He won multiple titles in Italy and it was effectively Mancini’s team that won the champions League under Mourinho. He’s gone on to win the FA cup and title. His job is safe.
The article doesn’t say that BR should lose his job. It does say that if we finish worse than last season’s 8th he is unlikely to keep his job, in which case there’s many reasons why Guardiola would be interested.
We change the manager because he is bloody useless . Rodgers is so far out of his depthits unbelievable
Not changing the manager to save money is really stupid . How much is Rodgers costing us ?
No champions league next year
No champions league ever under Rodgers
Early exits from the 2 cups so far this season
Wasting 29m on his average crappy players in summer
Wasting Xm on his average crappy players in january
Also ruining our reputation as a top european side , meaning no top players will want to join
How can we afford NOT to sack him ?
Exactly , if he buys more below average players in January – we will regret it .
He must be binned NOW
You are right . if Rodgers stays – i would rather we dont spend it . I Dont trust a guy who buys Joe Allen for 15m ,worst buy of the century
mayurr you dont have a clue . theres no improvement – things are getting worse .
‘look at the passing ‘ u say : thats all we ever do – pass pass pass pass without going anywheree . Its boring
1 . Sack BR , he is worst manager we ever had
2 . Hire a decent proven manager
3 . THEN sit back and have patience , we have soooo many great kids coming through , with a top manager we will do well
Who are these proven managers you speak of?
It’s BR who is giving the kids a chance and how can anyone say he is worse than Roy Hodgson? 8 unbeaten league games on the trot, outplaying most teams and averaging around 20 goal attempts per game? only a F**king Moron would say such a thing that’s who
woooo , 8 games ( not including cups , or they not count ) . how many wins ?
whats that ? 4 wins ALL season , against who ? mmmmm norwich away , and reading , soton ,and wigan at home
who cares about outplaying ( even though thats in ur head ) , its goals not shots that count , or didnt u know that ?
what a muppet u are
exactly , I dont know why fools go on about shots and possession nonsense , it means absolutely zero
Goals -how many we score , how many we let in , is all that matters
Out of interest how many of you would be happy if we employed a manager whose previous experience was with the likes of say Carlisle united, Grimsby town, Workington and Huddersfield town?
Please answer with a simple “Happy” or “Not Happy” as I am genuinely interested in what sort of response this question elicits.
I really don’t know, myself.
My history on English Football isn’t the greatest yet (working on it), but I figure that most would be unhappy.
Looking at it from a fresh perspective, though, I can say that Rogers certainly isn’t doing as bad a job as people are making it out to be.
Unbeaten in 8 straight league games, and a team that is showing signs of life. We’ve been missing Lucas Leiva, and we lost Borini well before he was able to get comfortable and settle into his role with the club.
Why people aren’t willing to give the manager even a year (two windows) to formulate his team, is beyond me.
Is Joe Allen the most impressive signing possible? Certainly not. However, it is exactly his type of player (steady, technically sound with the ball) that makes this system run. We need someone to distribute the ball out to the wings from the midfield, and a holding presence on the ball. We don’t have the other pieces in place yet, and with a lack of proper funds in the first window, I’m not sure why everyone expected a miracle.
Again, if we had someone who could find goal consistantly, and bury some of the chances that Suarez has gifted to Shelvey et al, we’re probably higher in the table than we are now.
Let Rogers do his job, and support the club.
pi*s off and go back to your hockey . with fans like you its no wonder we are not the force of old , Liverpool fans used to know whats what , but not judging by your unintelligent fantansies
Oh, you’re English? That must mean you know it all, and are far and away above other nationalities right?
You’re embarassing your city with your ignorance.
If Only I’d spit out some garbage like “**** Brendan! He’s a no good ****er!”, I would be in your good books…
Just shows how utterly ridiculous you are…
I Dont need advice from a fake american on how support my club Bejnay , Baz talks bull but at least he is from the city . If i think things are wrong at my club i have every right to ask for change . And things are very very wrong . Patience is dumb with a no mark manager like Rodgers – he is making us worse , and only the stupid cant see it
I didn’t tell you HOW to support your club. And this elitest “at least we’re from Liverpool!” BS is tripe. LFC prides itself on being a worldwide brand, because it has passionate fans that span the globe.
Just because someone didn’t have the pleasure of growing up down the street from Anfield, doesn’t make them love the club any less. It doesn’t make them less a fan than you, and it certainly doesn’t make their opinions of the club any less viable than your’s.
To be honest, I’m not accustomed to the culture of football fans, and how they treat managers/players/etc. consider that those who aren’t born and raised football fans have a different view on things. And just because that doesn’t necessarily line up with what you think should be done, doesn’t give you the right to act like you’re better than anyone.
You have every right to voice your opinion, sure. But so do I, and everyone else that loves LFC. You think things are weong, and want change, fine. I think he was hired less than 6 months ago, and should be given time to see it through.
Leave the nationalist, elitest, euro-centric garbage out of it.
For all the reasons the others gave , not where your from , you dont know what you are talking about
Please, enlighten me.
This is bloody football, not rocket science. I played as a youth, and have watched a good bit. It doesn’t take a genius to figure it out.
The only thing I have no real clue on, is the way in which fans react to/treat managers and players, as I’m sure it’s different than pro sports I’m more accustomed to.
Outside of that, I have an opinion and view of the club that differs from some. That seems to be the big deal. That’s fine. I welcome disagreement as an avenue to discussion, and healthy debate. There’s no reason to go on insulting people, and acting holier than thou.
We all love the club, and want what’s best for it. We just see different avenues in how to get there.
Is Rogers a great manager? He certainly is yet to prove it. I’m not a blind homer, I see that there are issues that need addressing (his love of talking constantly, for instance), but I’m one of the many/few(?) willing to see what he does with better financial support, and a full, healthy roster.
Bejnay, the reason you’re getting a bit of stick on your above response is because Baz was referring to Shankly’s old teams. Of course we were in the 2nd Division at the time, and had been for 5 years, without quite the history of success we have now so it isn’t surprising we hired a manager who had varying success at small teams. That we hired a genius was our great fortune! I think it’s far, far, far too early to compare BR to Shanks just cos they came from smaller clubs though.