LFC: Bigpool, Littlepool, or just another fish in the pool?

Date: 15th January 2013 at 5:30 pm
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LFC fans bannerWHAT does it mean to be a ‘big’ club?

recently commented on is delight at joining a club that has no Premiership rival ‘bigger’. A sentiment which was completely lost as a different translation was seen and stated by various idiots.

Their translation read more like joining ‘the biggest club in the World/Premiership’.

Now is a great football club that I follow passionately, but the translated version of Sturridge’s words felt insulting. Was I being humble, strange, defensive and not recognising my own club’s greatness, or was I being patronised and reacting accordingly? Or is any such talk of ‘biggest’ just like juveniles screwing up their fresh faces and shouting ‘my dad’s bigger than your dad’, till they start to swing tiny fists?

What makes a club ‘bigger’ than another?

Stadium size? Anfield is the 7th largest stadium in England. There are 6 teams with bigger stadiums. Does that make six clubs ‘bigger’ then Liverpool FC? If we include Scotland, Anfield is 10th, including Wales and we are 11th. So there are bigger stadiums, but that does that necessarily mean a bigger clubs?

What about world following?

We all know Man U, Liverpool, and Arsenal have a huge global following. Who has the largest? How do you tell if someone living in Hong Kong, India or Peru prefers Liverpool to Man Utd if they don’t buy anything and just keep up with scores and catch the odd game on the free-to-view TV service provider? Personally, without any prejudice, I couldn’t care less how many fans Liverpool have in Honduras, Singapore or anywhere else!

Figures for 2012 income places Liverpool 4th, amount paid in wages we’re 4th but all the different figures collected by The Independent place other clubs higher.

If media coverage and scrutiny is anything to go by then I have to agree with Sturridge; no other club has got more attention in the UK than Liverpool over the last few years. Every minute there are approximately 255 babies born in the world – almost as many as the number of ‘things’ written about Suarez! (Some of the pieces sound like the babies actually wrote them.)

History – our favourite measuring stick? Man Utd have one more league but Liverpool have been Champions of Europe twice more. Nottingham Forest, Leeds, and are all big clubs historically as they have won leagues and/or European Cups…but where are they now? have won the league and won in Europe but there are few (outside of the Villa faithful) who cling on to claims of being a big club or the biggest. Such history gets superseded, forgotten and can become irrelevant over time.

Present – our least favourite measuring stick? 2005 we won the Champions League and 2007 we were so close. Liverpool haven’t challenged for the league since we came second in 2009, and there are around seven clubs above us in the league today and at the end of the season I expect five clubs to be above us, unless we suddenly and dramatically improve on the pitch.

Maybe heavy investments today (e.g. Sneider and Villa etc) are needed as much as a continued investment in tomorrow (Shelvey and the youth). As we’ve seen from Arsenal, if you focus on the future you don’t have a present as the foundations crumble before the project. If Arsenal had been able to get some quality experienced additions I think they would have won the league over the last seven years. In doing so they would have held on to the multitude of talent they unearthed, developed and lost to teams who actually wanted to win enough to go on and do it.

The future – who knows? But I feel we clearly need to improve or resign ourselves to the history books as once-upon-a-time also-rans. The stadium is ridiculously small for a club with our fan base. Why oh why do FSG want to start on it in 2014? All the time spent in talks about a new stadium over the years has been enough to build it 20 times over!

Fergy called Newcastle small, yet had a tantrum, foaming at the mouth at Rafa when he called Everton small…as usual, hypocrisy from old Purple nose.

A few clubs can claim to be bigger than Liverpool due to success over the last 20 years, but only one has a serious case as far as I am concerned and that’s Man Utd. As long as the sum total of European and League top dogs is in Liverpool’s favour there is always an argument to be made that no club is bigger. While we can argue, we will. While we can breathe, we can argue!

Finally, I don’t care who’s ‘dad is bigger’; Liverpool is my club and that’s all that matters. We’d support them if we were in the Championship, and below. After Man City and Chelsea I can understand Sturridge wants supporters to like him immediately. Daniel, if you’re reading: Relax, work hard on the pitch and don’t say anything stupid off the pitch. If you conduct yourself with dignity and most importantly, keep scoring and scoring and scoring, we’ll love you like Fowler (well almost, after all he is ‘God’).


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24 thoughts on “LFC: Bigpool, Littlepool, or just another fish in the pool?

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  • Ozred
    1 year ago

    All good other than not giving a toss how many people support Liverpool overseas. Here in oz u see 1 Liverpool shirt walking around for every other premier league shirt.

    We buy official merchandise through the website, pay for lfc tv subscriptions and have active supporter groups which directly contribute to the mighty reds.

    Sure probably every secod shirt is purchased from Bali or Thailand but it’s this kind of of global reach that helps make Liverpool one of the biggest clubs in the world dispite performances over the last 20 years.


  • Chan
    1 year ago

    We are a big club not only because of our glorious history (with BR around that is the only thing we could look to these days), but also our our LFC way, the fact this club had touch the lives of so many and our never say die approach.

    The fact is we still have a global following despite not winning the league for 23 years. How many teams can do that?

    But all these legacy is in danger and we would firmly remain as also rans with BR in charge.

  • Tony
    1 year ago

    Big club , small manager , poor owners . The potential for Liverpool is incredible . Get it right on the pitch and we could be the biggest

  • tommy
    1 year ago

    massive club,honest manager, shrewed owners , i genuinely believe , next season , we’ll see the rewards and it will be even better when the seating in anfield goes up to 62,000 may even be more if the kop gets seats taking out ,, imagine that , 59,000 REDNOSES screaming down to the pitch attack attack , attack attack attack,, yes i believe we’re in safe hands this time ,

  • tommy
    1 year ago

    just came through sneijder wants to come to LFC

    • stevieG
      1 year ago

      Not true . He said he would prefer premier league thats all . Stop believing everything you read in the daily rags

  • simon
    1 year ago

    Huge club …. but getting smaller every year . New manager and new owners are a neccesity for us to grow

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