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Why Hasn’t It Happened For Nuri Sahin?

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WHEN it was announced we had beaten Arsenal to the loan signing of Turkish playmaker Nuri Sahin, I was of course delighted.

As a massive fan of the Bundesliga, I watched Sahin pull the strings for Borussia Dortmund on his way to winning the Bundesliga title as well as being voted the player of the season.

It was no surprise that he made the big move to La Liga when Real Madrid came calling, as we have seen ourselves, it’s hard for any player to turn down a move to the Madrid giants.

Sahin is the type of player most fans would love – he has a terrific left foot, can pick a pass as good as anyone and chips in with his fair share of goals. So the big question is: Why isn’t it working with him for Liverpool?

Sahin is a luxury player, and when he started for us against Arsenal it was clear to see he wasn’t fully match fit. An injury plagued season at Real Madrid meant he would always be playing catch-up in regards to fitness and blending into Rodgers’ much talked about game plan, but at times it looks like he was playing in reverse.

One amazing cameo against West Brom in the Capital One Cup aside, The Turk has flattered to deceive which is a real shame for Liverpool as they lack true creativity in the middle of the park. Rodgers’ philosophy is for players to express creativity but matched with hard work as well.
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Sahin has all the talent but seems to lack the stomach to fight for his place and oust those competing with him for one of three central midfield positions (once Lucas is back to full fitness that becomes two, such is his importance to the balance of the team).

A loan fee and on high wages, Sahin is now expected to return to Real Madrid, or join another club on loan, allowing us to look at further options besides the imminent arrival of Thomas Ince back to the club from Blackpool.

Sahin will no doubt regain his best form and become the player we know he can be, but at this moment in time Liverpool need players who can perform now. Sahin’s position should be contested between Suso and Jonjo Shelvey; two players who have shown this season they deserve more game time with the undroppable captain nailing down the last remaining midfield slot (something I highly disagree with – a few good crosses into the box should not guarantee you a starting place, although his form has picked up of late).

Good luck in the future, Nuri, it just hasn’t happened for you here.
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30 comments

  • Barnesy says:

    He’s still been better than the overrated Shelvey.

    • Micah says:

      I’d afree. Shelvey has been awful and i don’t understand why BR doesn’t play him in his prefered position. He is top class player and it’s crazy that wasn’t give a proper run of games.

      BR selections most of the time has been the ‘square peg, round hole’ situation. He forces his player to play into his sysrem rather than trying to get the best his player abilities. Madness that sahin wasn’t given a proper chance. BR being an amateur manager probably has no clue when it comes to rating a player

  • David Clarke says:

    You don’t agree with gerrard being a regular starter? The top assist man in the league with five goals from a deep midfield position? The captain of the team? Shouldn’t be starting? Interesting…

  • Elias says:

    Allen is favoured so much,i would have kept sahin cause madrid can not need him..if we send him back then we must persue benat extabarria .

  • bob says:

    sahin is a quality player , but rodgers has not played him in his proper position . sahin is a holding midfielder as he has said himself . for rodgers to favour the useless allen instead of sahin is stupid

    waste of his time and our money for rodgers not to use him properly

  • Jim says:

    Gerrard shouldn’t start? Good thing you’re not the coach son.

  • Samhez says:

    @Barnesy, pls Shevey is not overrated at all.. The problem wit Sahin is that he lacks match fitness and it doesn’t look like he possess the strength and stamina to succeed in EPL like Aquilani. I’m in support wit the writer about Gerrard. Gerard even admitted recently that his form dipped early this season. Although that has changed recently. I would choose Shevey, Henderson and Suso over Sahin now

  • Baron says:

    I’d agree with the author that Stevie G hasnt always warranted his undroppable status, especially not earlier in the season, where he was at fault for more goals than proably any other player.
    Its not sacriligeous to suggest that due to his drop off in form, that maybe he needed a little breather, but saying that, his form over the last 3 games has been vastly improved and he is fully deserving of his place. Long may it continue…

    • Dave says:

      Gerrard even when he is playing rubbish – IS still better than Allen , Sahin , Henderson or Shelvey

  • Esso says:

    I agree Gerrard isn’t as good as before even though he’s the top leader assist this season . However Stevie’s leadership inside the pitch is outstanding irreplacable , he gives confidence to all players! I hope we don’t return sahin to madrid or to loan him to any other team , he’s not at his best but I believe sahin will regain his performance if he got a real chance in the second half of the season . Remember xabi alonso took half year to settle in , lucas took years also , so please BR give sahin another chance .. YNWA

  • Barnsey says:

    Its a bit harsh the way he has been treated considering that after his debut he never played in a losing LFC side.

  • lummy says:

    If sahin was given as many games as joe allen (the managers pet )he wouldve come good too..ive watched liverpool games live and the amount ov times allen gives the ball away any other manager wouldve droped him let someone else have a run in the team.

  • Mojo says:

    It’s simple, Henderson over Allen and Sahin over Shelvey. Lucas should rest a bit more. They both should be starters

  • Tracey says:

    Sahin – Another case of bad management by BR

  • Liam McClintock says:

    Thanks for taking the time to read and to comment everyone, I really appreciate it. The Gerrard romanticism is plain to see, yes there has been a marked improvement over the last few games but he has been largely woeful in a system that requires midfielders to be at their physical peak, to bully and harass the opposition into making mistakes and losing the ball. Gerrard has unfortunately carried the team so much over the years that it has taken its toll.

    Shelvey is a Rodgers favourite, and has an eye for goal. Overrated is very harsh.

    Allen may not have been amazing of late, but he was very good at the start of the season and we will see the best of him as the rest of the team grows in confidence.

    Sahin may not have been given as many chance as others, but the manager goes by what he sees. In Rodgers we must trust.

    Thanks again for reading and posting.

    • GAZ says:

      Dont know what u have been watching but Allen was never good – easily the worst Liverpool player for years

      And ‘in rodgers we must trust ‘ ? What nonsense is that ? He has given no reasons for us to trust him . if Crusty the clown was hired by FSG to manage Liverpool , would u trust him too ? Your the one guilty of romanticism

      • Liam says:

        Hi mate, Allen was fantastic the start of the season. The lad has been playing non stop for about 2 years now though, and has started to become tired and in need of a rest (which he has been getting).

        No reason to trust Rodgers? So giving Sterling (now an England international), Suso, Wisdom, Shelvey game time isn’t a good thing? Arguably getting the best form out of Suarez we have seen isn’t worth anything?

        Romanticism is one thing, common sense is another entirely. I understand people will be against Rodgers because we aren’t magically in the top 4, but most need to realise that this season was a write off after poor management and ownership from the last two managers. Given time, Rodgers ideas will be implemented magnificently and the club will grow from the bottom up.

        • harry86 says:

          I agree with gaz . Allen was never fantastic , he had 2 or 3 decent games where he still produced or created nothing

          And as for your trust in Rodgers , its totally misguided and naive . Rodgers will be gone within 12 more months and the sooner the better

  • seve says:

    Firstly I don’t know how some of you are suggesting that a loanee should get more game time then the players we actually own, yes Allen and Shelvey have had a dip in form but they still represent the future of the club. Sahin is a good player but we were never going to make the deal a permanent one because 1. Real Madrid wouldn’t sell on the cheap 2. His wages are too high. IMO the lad has a serious lack of pace which premier league teams can exploit eg. Arsenal @ Anfield where he was too slow at tracking back and when caught in possession, was too slow to recover. I don’t know if it’s a lack of effort or determination that could be a determining factor as to why Rodgers doesn’t use him anymore.

  • Liam says:

    @harry86 – we are treading dangerous waters if we sack Rodgers within a year. Becoming like Chelsea. Who then do we turn to if Rodgers is sacked? It simply will not happen.

    I like to think of it as having faith rather than naivety.

    • harry86 says:

      faith ? faith is nonsense . reality is for ur fictional future to come true , u are relying on Rodgers being as good a manager as Ferguson and Wenger …. there is NO evidence that points to that even being a possibility .

      secondly , just say its true , that he is a new Wenger ….. he still wont bring success , football has moved on , even Wenger the great manager he is with a 15 year excellent academy in place , even Wenger cant get success , no trophies in 8 years , unable to seriously compete with top clubs

      Fact is , and it is a fact cos if Wenger cant get success no one can , you cant get success in modern football without a decent amount of money thrown at it , nobody has

      Rodgers has been inept in every way since joining , and i find it amazing and depressing that any liverpool fan would back a manager who has us drowning in mid table in January

      Leave faith to the religious wackos , stick to realism in football

  • Liam says:

    @harry86 – It is also worth noting that Allens job should be to win posession, retain posession and keep the ball moving. If you are looking for goals and assists from him, there won’t be many.

    What we seen with his marauding runs the other night was a one off when the game was dead.

    • harry86 says:

      Allen is everything wrong with Liverpool this season , he slows our attacks with sideways passes and is bullied and dominated every game .

      Im sure technically he is not the worst , but i have never seen a player so harmful to our cause as Allen . The next manager will have him out the door in 5 min

      • This is a discussion for another time but who would you have managing us if Rodgers is so bad? (Actually getting us playing attractive football and blending youths into the first team, seems to not be to your pleasing).

  • fotheringham says:

    Sahin was one of europes best talents , and still wanted by Real

    Another case of – what Rodgers touches , turns to shi*e

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