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Coutinho’s a bargain buy, but would you now trust Rodgers with £100m?

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LFC managerHOW much will Brendan Rodgers have to spend at LFC this summer? Is £100 million unrealistic? In my opinion we need at least that sort of money, spent wisely, to get us from being mid-table to top four.

But is Brendan Rodgers the right man to trust to spend it wisely? I think Rodgers will, like Kenny Dalglish, be given real cash to spend, especially with the increased TV revenue coming in.

There is no debate surrounding the fact Dalglish was given real money to spend as LFC manager. Whether that money was well spent or not is another matter. Should Rodgers get credit for making Dalglish’s signings look good (or do they even look any good is another topic of debate)? Let’s deal in facts and then the debates and opinion can follow.

How much has Rodgers spent gross? Net?

Depending on where you look you get different figures on transfers so these are just indicative: (roughly right)

Players in:

Joe Allen £15m, Daniel Sturridge £12m, Fabio Borini £12m, Coutinho £8.8m, Nuri Sahin £4.4m, Oussama Assaidi £3.5m, Samed Yesil £1.1m

Total: £56.8 million

Players out:

Charlie Adam £5.5m, Dirk Kuyt £800,000 Andy Carroll Loan fee £1.1m, Alberto Aquilani (undisclosed but believed to be £1.7m)

Total: £7.4 million

So that’s 56.8 – 7.4 = £49.4m net over two transfer windows – but that’s only half the picture as so many high earning players have been released on free transfers and a number of other players on loan, not just Carroll.

Now I am going to assume all of what we read about players being on more performance-related pay is true. I am also going to assume before Rodgers, players where on higher wages so the salaries of Allen, Courtinho, Sturridge, Borini, Yesil, Assaidi are offset by salary savings of Kuyt, Adam, Carroll and Aquilani. I think in reality the salaries would be more than offset and there are savings.

We are lead to believe Joe Cole was on £120k a week, so let’s assume the following players average out at £70k a week as most of these players (Fabio Aurelio, Maxi Rodriguez, Joe Cole, Nuri Sahin (loaned in and terminated loan), Alexander Doni, Craig Bellamy) were free transfers and so paid very well to reflect the lack of transfer fee.

6 x 70,000 = £420k a week which works out as £21,840,000 a year.

I think this figure is a conservative estimate.

So we could say in reality the saving Rodgers has made in wages mean LFC has spent net 52.4 – 21.84 = £30.56m over two transfer windows.
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There are a number of players on loan and all, or hopefully most, of their wages are off our books (e.g. Jay Spearing, Dani Pacheco) but we don’t exactly know so to keep things simple let’s just ignore them.

Now £30.56 is not a lot for us to spend over two transfer windows.

How successful have Rodgers’ transfer dealings really been?

Joe Allen age 23: Joe started brightly but his star has faded of late thanks to injuries and a ‘resulting’ lack of form. So, not very successful so far and not looking like value for money at £15m. He got the plaudits from the pundits, or at least he did at the start of his LFC career but in my opinion he never really did anything noteworthy.

(Nuri Sahin: Looked like an expensive error but I’m struggling to find out if we got any of the money paid for the loan back so at present £4.4m written off.)

Oussama Assaidi age 24: I like him the rare few times he’s been on the pitch and at £3.5m he may prove to be a good signing. At present not a great purchase.

Samed Yesil age 18: One for the future with a huge reputation but not seen anything yet. At £1.1m and at his age, we can afford him the time and space to develop.

Fabio Borini age 22: Fabio has had two big injuries and not really got into any rhythm or of form. Not looking like money well spent but is it fair to judge a player who has had no stability and moved so often over the last few years? A young man in a foreign country and injured; call me generous but I’ll make up my mind later. £12m not looking like money well spent, yet.

Daniel Sturridge age 23: Hit the ground running and looks at home in a LFC shirt, a rare statement. £13m well spent so far, an even rarer a statement.

Coutinho age 20: Looks like a class act! He’s a quality player and again, seems at home in a LFC shirt (getting less rare, this statement!) At £8.8m he was a bargain by Premiership standards, not just over the top LFC prices.

So out of the six players still at the club one has been injury plagued, another not been given enough of a chance with the first team, so that leaves four players. Out of those four buys, two are real first team successes – not great if you think two out of six – but what’s promising is its Rodgers’ last two buys. In a recent interview Rodgers explained that the scouting network had been improved from the summer. Maybe Mr Rodgers is learning about LFC and the types of players that will succeed here.

Coutinho does look a bargain. Even ignoring our own past big spending on Carroll, Downing and Henderson we can look at Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Santi Cazorla. Hazard (age 22) cost £35m plus £6m to his agent, Oscar (age 21) £25m, Mata (age 23) £23.5m but that’s money bags Chelsea. Arsenal’s Santi Cazorla (age 28) only cost £12m.

Coutinho’s stats: 6 games, 2 goals, 3 assists and 12 shots. Oscar: 27 games, 1 goal, 4 assists, 44 shots. Hazard: 28 games, 8 goals, 8 assists, 56 shots. Coutinho looks like a major bargain.

The last player bought by Rodgers looks amazing business and Sturridge looks good too. May be with this improved scouting network we can trust him?

But then again, one swallow doesn’t make a summer…
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An armchair fan who loves the stadium experience but likes the bread and butter of replays, moronic pundits, a drink in a pub atmosphere. LFC is my religion.

Common sense is missing from football but the situation is always complicated so I endeavour to give opinion and encourage discussion and thought about LFC.

175 comments

  • Andy says:

    If Dalglish spent the money wisely when he had the chance we wouldn’t be in this position. That’s all I’m saying on the matter now.

    • Nigel says:

      I agree with you on this one- kenny and Commoli wasted a huge amount on average players in both transfers and wages. Only Suarez was a successful purchase.
      In regards to the article wouldn’t the loan fee for Andy Carroll be a monthly fee? And releasing players like joe cole from their contracts would have cost money to the player?
      Anyhow we are galling more and more behind and we need players who fit this system the manager wants to play- like Coutinho. He knows that, surely so hopefully we can attract good players still to push us on next season. I do feel we need a really athletic powerful def mid as Lucas can be lightweight and Allen can’t play that role. We need 2 good players per position and good youth prospects backing them up like sterling, wisdom, Kelly, suso, yesil etc

  • RobM says:

    I have no doubt that Liverpool are heading in the right direction and BR is the man to keep us progressing towards a quick passing, high tempo and pressing the opposition in packs team. He’s embraced and understands the culture that fans demand as well as encouraging players’ involvement in the wider community.

    I have total faith in BR and I think with patience and support, he could make our team break back in to the top 4 next season, consolidate the position for a another year or two and then even challenge for the title. Remember BR is still young and learning all the time as well.

    Please fellow fans – be patient.

    • Ben says:

      He has embraced nothing and doesn’t understand the fans. He is totally out of touch and the real fans are fed.up with his waffle
      Rodgers is a loser in every way

    • fab says:

      We will be patient – just as soon.as we get a decent manager . Not with this Rodgers guy

  • Pnderito says:

    I cant trust him! 2/6?? We need another manager like Rafa to bring in the likes of Alonso and Eriksen to Anfield. Rodgers is clueless!!

  • Bala Joseph says:

    Rodgers is NOT a loser.He is the right Man for us. to be honest, liverpool played very well all season but were unlucky via results.now like against westham, who will you blame?

    • Ben says:

      That’s not bad luck. That is bad team.selection and management

      Did you even watch the game ?

      The fool picked downing even when downing said he was ill
      Kop on

  • hud says:

    Considering the team he inherited and the 55 million he spent comparator Hodgson who spent 20

    It’s hard to say who is the worst Liverpool manager. Hodgson only had 6 months and might have turned it around whereas Rodgers has had a whole season and we are still poor

    Hodgson had injuries to his best players. Rodgers best players have been totally injury free

    It’s a tough one…but I actually believe Rodgers has done worse than Hodgson

    Can we trust him ? You must be joking

    • fab says:

      Look. I’m not sure if Rodgers is worse than Hodgson. The football at least is better to watch, but I agree both are awful awful managers . Can’t believe Rodgers has lasted so long

      • Vikas Dhingra says:

        Hodgson was pathetic, in my opinion. His press conferences n team were just poor!

    • Vikas Dhingra says:

      No way. Hodgson was out of his depth as lest as day. BR has made errors but has also got a great deal right. Hodgkin he ain’t!

  • LFCDean says:

    I trust BR and have faith in him. Love you Buck Rogers!!!

  • kirbyking says:

    Brendan Rogers is the man and i have complete faith in him. The new king kenny I say!!!

  • Mark Henry says:

    Brendan the Rogering Bodger, has said it might be a blessing in disguise if Lfc miss out on a European place. What the hell does that tell you about this man, he’s a *, & to all the people who believe that attractive football justify poor results are mug like the mighty Bodger art-full Dodger, I wouldn’t trust him with a 100 million pounds worth of luncheon voucher!. FSG save yourself and SACK this TRIX! Immediately.

  • Vikas Dhingra says:

    The views are seriously varied. There is, in my opinion, enough to suggest BR deserves his chance to spend £100mil.

    • kpax says:

      Youre retarded.

      Rodgers out!

      • Vikas Dhingra says:

        You make a brilliant argument and are obviously of great intelligence. Thank you for contributing to the thread. Hope you enjoyed Easter and best of luck at school for the summer term.

  • Eedrees says:

    Rodgers all d way….. I love dis man

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