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AnfieldRIGHT; another international break then.

That’s ok though, because Liverpool won their last game before the squad went separate ways. Comprehensively, I might add. Fulham were properly beaten; outplayed and outfought in every area of the pitch by a solid, determined and playful LFC team who just wouldn’t accept prisoners.

Little is worse than watching your team playing badly ahead of a break, but this time we got the perfect game before hitting the pause button. Team selection, game plan and execution was spot on. Four goals could easily have been six or seven, and The Mig got himself a clean sheet.

I don’t know if reflection and time on your hands is a good thing or a bad thing ahead of a derby game at Goodison Park. With some of the upcoming away games in mind I can’t help but thinking that this is a potentially crucial one, even though it’s only the usual three points at stake.

There’s almost too much time for your mind to start wandering; looking at the fixture list racking up points and create a league table halfway through the season that probably won’t look anything like what I’m picturing. Things suddenly turn a bit abstract – like the summer transfer window. Reality is put on hold and the fantasies take over. The rational part of my brain tells me to calm down and do the old one game at the time routine, which obviously is as boring as it is sensible.

I don’t really believe this is the year though. You know, really. There are far too many sobering aspects about recent and not so recent history for me to genuinely start believing Liverpool FC have a shot at the title. There’s been too many winters for that sort of belief.

But let me be clear about one thing: I am going to enjoy it while it lasts. Just being up there when we are approaching December isn’t something we have been able to take for granted too often the last couple of decades. It’s a bit of new and funny sensation, almost like eating snails or squid for the first time: I know what I’m experiencing, but I’m not quite sure how to deal with it.
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That probably tells you something about me, but it also tells a lot about the false dawns the universe have kept flinging at us over the years. “Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, B…” It’s almost as if we can’t talk about it without looking over our shoulder for the gloomy cloud.

Then again, why shouldn’t we? Seriously, why can’t we stick our chests out and go “F*** it, this IS the year!” Because football is all about the ups and downs, no?

If football was a grey and tasteless medium without the emotional investment, then why bother with it? I’m sick of sitting on the fence all the time, worrying about when the dream will blow up in our faces, while Brendan Rodgers and the boys are doing the exact opposite. They’re going for it, every game. Three points or bust seems to be the attitude with this lot, and I’m loving it.

The fear seems to have gradually vanished; the fear of ghosts from the past – of ghosts of greatness – that has taken the sting and joy out of many Liverpool players in recent time. We see the passion and togetherness among players and staff when they score a goal; it may be a detail, but I think it’s a significant detail.

There’s also a certain madness over this team and the club as a whole these days. From tweeting owner John W. Henry, via our Harley riding Managing Director and down to the team. It feels somewhat unconventional at times, like things are about to spin out control any minute, and I think that’s what we needed. At least I needed it. I’m there, burning down that fence.

That’s my approach from now on. If the Liverpool team can be mad as a bag of bats, then I’m seeing it as my duty to reflect it. From now on that’s my default stance: We’re going to win the league, and not in a boring way. Because Liverpool Football Club just don’t do boring all that well these days.

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116 comments

  • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

    All the other major teams have lost matches and dropped silly points, this is the best chance to win it, if Rodgers dont see that now and take advantage then he never will.

  • BRENDAN says:

    Yes yes yes of course we can win it there are 7 teams all capable of beating each other if we can gain more if we are still in top 3-4 by xmas then we will face all of them at home after xmas except utd .we will beat them anyway .in calender year we have scored 62 goals that is the highest out of anyone.Defensively we are only behind southampton and spurs.After more jan signings and fresher legs due to no europa league and a decent bench of course we can win it .We can all have our opinions but the real signs are in the bookies where their money is on the line.First time in years we are favourites to take title over utd.Any game we play you will no longer see lfc 4/1 those days are gone and the sweet silver song of the LARK WALK ON WALK ON

  • BRENDAN says:

    Forgot to mention we are 2 points off the top that is with suarez missing 5 johnson allen agger enrique aspas and coutinho all been injured .All back in training now

  • pino pino says:

    Brendan beat everton and am with u cos we may go first.

    • No sheep says:

      Captain fickle!

      • fat Irish barman says:

        Sorry , no chance. Dream all you like but this team is not capable of sustaining a challenge.

        You won’t find one ‘expert’ on tv who thinks Liverpool will be even challenging. The only ones who think its possible don’t understand football.

        • No sheep says:

          You will find that these experts say it is between Chelsea and man city. Lfc, arsenal,spurs and united are all deemed not good enough to win the title. Tell us the last time a team won the prem a year after they finished 7. No one at the club is saying we don’t want to win the league, they are using reason and saying top 4 would show huge improvement from where we have been the last 4 or 5 years. What is the deference between aiming to win the league and aiming for top 4 when going in to any game? nothing, Every game we have tried to win. We just need to take every game as it comes.

          You will find that the people who think we would win the league this season with a better manager are the ones who don’t understand.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha . Comedy gold from no sheep again.

            The same fool who thinks Liverpool are better off without Suarez .

            Of course Liverpool would have a chance of the league if we had a proper manager who bought QUALITY players instead of defenders we don’t need and rubbish like Aspas

            Good managers = they buy quality , have tactical ability in big games = win more games
            Poor managers = wastes money on players we don’t need . Doesnt have tactical ability in big games = doesn’t win leagues

            Get it ? It makes sense , no ?

  • aaron says:

    I think they do understand football but are daring to dream.

    I agree with you tho it is difficult going from 7th to 1st. However, it’s nice being in this position at this time of year.

    I fear monumental backlash if all we do is quality for CL, as some, me included are guilty of getting carried away.

    Yes other teams have had or are in turmoil but we ourselves have had our share recently, BR has only been at LFC for two minutes and is being accused of all our ills. Silly considering where we currently stand.

    We just need to keep things in perspective and not get over excited nor dejected, even if we just scrape CL

    • troll hunter says:

      You boring troll Aaron. Still trolling ?

      Idiot

      • aaron says:

        You really love me don’t you? How sweet xx

        Besides being called boring by you is hugely complimentary, thanks bud.

        Now FU CK OFF

        • troll hunter says:

          Sad troll Aaron. Complete idiot

          • aaron says:

            Fair point, but none of us can predict the future.

            Not many people predicted coming back from 3-0 down yet still achieved it.

            I’m daring to realistically dream but if we fail, I’ll not shoot the manager, as long as we give it a good go.

            what’s your opinion Troll Hunter… Please give one you mega arse hole

          • troll hunter says:

            Still trolling Aaron ?

            Idiot

  • Alan Cormack says:

    I don’t think this squad Will get top 4 let alone win the thing . We are getting way ahead of ourselves , and fooled by a rather gentle fixture list.
    Yes we have done well and amassed a decent amount of points but the arsenal game showed how far away we are . I do believe after spending nearly 100m BR should have built a much stronger squad.

  • j75j says:

    Christer Eikrem just enjoy each month and we will sustain our challenge for the season.
    December is going to be a difficult month but with the daft points being dropped by the other teams they are playing catch up and a guaranteed 6 points a season has suddenly dropped to 3,4 or even 0 against lesser teams which in the second half of the season will make a difference as we found last season.

  • Jimmy says:

    haters get this into ur head——–when U????? aim for d moon[title],the least U????? get is d star[top 4]

  • David Collins says:

    Everyone is allowed to dream , but the time will come soon when you have to wake up sadly.

    • aaron says:

      Fair point, but none of us can predict the future.

      Not many people predicted coming back from 3-0 down yet still achieved it.

      I’m daring to realistically dream but if we fail, I’ll not shoot the manager, as long as we give it a good go.

      • troll hunter says:

        Troll Aaron . Nobody cares about your idiot opinions.

        You are so boring

        • stevieG says:

          You two kiddies need to fluck off . You are BOTH trolls .

          • aaron says:

            I second that.

            See you in a couple of weeks, I’ll come back less troll and more opinionated.

            Thanks StevieG, I needed to hear that, was getting distracted and misguided.

            Hopefully LFC still be in good shape when I return, now off to Amsterdam, yay.

  • stevieG says:

    As for the article ….dream all you want . We are not a top team .

    Our first 11 is fine .. Our squad is woeful. We didn’t strengthen during the summer . The Arsenal game showed us how far behind we really are . Beating a rubbish Fulham team is no great achievement.

    • aaron says:

      Regardless of easy start it’s better than having a tough start and hovering around 10 – 7 th.

      Would you agree?

      Maybe after December we’ll be found out and then you’ll BR

    • no sheep says:

      what did the arsenal villa game show?
      what did the chelsea new castle game show?
      what did the spurs westham game show?
      what did the everton palace game show? draw but they should have lost.
      what did the city sunderland game shaow?
      what did the liverpool united game show?
      other teams lose and it a slip up but if we lose its season is over sack the manager and get rid of the owners.

      • realist says:

        No sheep you really are amazingly stupid .

        This is a Liverpool site. No one cares what the chelski Newcastle game showed or any other game

        What a retard . The Arsenal game showed Rodgers is out of his depth and we are not a top team

        Get it ?

        • j75j says:

          So our defeat of Man U counts for nothing then????? So on one defeat you would sack Rodgers then???? Arsenal??? Didn’t their game against Man U show that they have along way to go as well????? One game in 38 doesn’t make a season just highlights we still have work to do but Rodgers, fans and the team know this.

          • No sheep says:

            J75j do not waste you time on this cretin, it is just trying to get under people’s skin, mine manly. Wasting its own time but I can’t imagine it has much else to do. What else would you expect from something that believes racial stereotyping is not racist.

          • realist says:

            No sheep . You really have sunk to depths of stupidity which I didn’t even think you were capable.

            So calling someone Irish , even though they ARE actually Irish , is racist ???? Ha ha hahaha haha ha ha ha ha ha

            If something has the gall to call me english , they are racist ??? Ha ha hahaha

            No sheep. The number 1 fool.

  • aaron says:

    Stupid phone.

    Then you’ll be right and all that will happen is we’ll slip down the table.

    As painful as that is it’s where you expect us to be. Nothing wrong with that.

    Easy start or no start I’d rather be second, strengthen in Jan and see what happens, rather than be second knowing we will finish fourth or less and feel smug about that.

    Thats just me.

    • troll hunter says:

      You are so boring .

      Idiot

      • stevieG says:

        ???’ unbelievable !!!!

        Dont you people get it ? You are both trolls . You are both idiots. Go away both of you. Two 7 year olds.

        • troll hunter says:

          I apologize Stevie if I have offended you or anyone else . I am merely treating Aaron the same way he treats other people.
          He is s troll who for months has been bringing this site down to a playground level with his insults and name calling to those whose opinions he doesn’t agree with .

          • no sheep says:

            troll hunter, can you put up 5 examples of this where he has abused people without them abusing him first? a difference of opinion is not abuse. debating different opinions is what sites like this are meant for, it is not a support group for a bunch of women to take turns crying and over reacting about how things are not going the way they had hoped.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha . Typical no sheep. Getting things totally wrong as usual.

            Can you give me 5 examples when you have not made a fool out of yourself with braindead comments ?

            Nope , didn’t think so .

      • aaron says:

        How old are you out of interest?

        All other jokes aside.

  • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

    I hope he proves people wrong but Rodgers just doesnt have the heart of a champion, doesnt have the heart of a warrior, he said last month ‘i hope to be in the top 6 by January’, this just doesnt fill me with any great belief in the man.

    • No sheep says:

      Ya cause that is what top managers have “heart”, not tactical astuteness and man management skills. Heart ya that is what we need. If he said that he hoped to be in the top 6 by January, what is wrong with that? 1st,2nd and 3rd are in the top 6. Are you not one of the group that wanted rodgers to do his talking on the field instead of in press conferences after he talked up the team and our chances before we lost to arsenal, now it’s he doesn’t have the heart to be a top manager. Unbelievable.

      • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

        Whats wrong with saying i ‘hope to be in top 6 by January’? It shows a mentality of a man with very low expectations i’m afraid. If you think that is OK then take a long look at yourself. Remember we are the most decorated club in English football, you need to remind yourself.

        • No sheep says:

          Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years. You might want to read up about what has been happening to our club. We have not one the league in 23 years. Also we have not played in the champions league in the last 4 or 5 years and the club nearly went into administration (Leeds and Portsmouth have). Check the dates of when all this happened against the dates FSG and Rodgers came to the club.
          Being in the top6 by January means we are still in contention at the top over half way through the season. What do you want the season won by x-mass

          • realist says:

            Pathetic defeatist attitude . One of the worlds biggest clubs , still inthe worlds top 10 in terms of revenue. . We have the league’s best player and the manager has spent 96 million. Clown.

          • aaron says:

            It’s not defeatist at all, we’ve been the top 10 income generators for years, how close has that got us in league success? 2nd once!! Great achievement.

            You can’t blame Rodgers for everything, as much as you wish you could.

            At some point you have to realise progress has been made, whether you like it or not, one of the best scoring teams and best defences. Easy start I hear you say. But you’ll say easiest season we have ever had, if Rodgers does well, just admit you hate the guy, support the team but because he is not world renowned, you are not prepared to give him a chance and quite happily will allow him to walk alone.

            No shame in that, just as there is no shame with people supporting him.

            At the end of the storm, there’s a golden sky.

            Hopefully, regardless of supporting manager or not, well all be sunbathing under that golden sky.

            in fighting certainly doesn’t help and casts shadows.

            Although it is fun to read.

          • troll hunter says:

            Idiot troll Aaron . Still boring everyone with your trolling.
            Get a life . People are not interested in your idiotic opinion.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha . Troll Hunter has it spot on .you talk sh*te Aaron . You do bore everyone with your senseless childish drivel.

            Golden sky blah blah blah . What a clown !!

          • aaron says:

            Where are we in the league? What’s your problem with that, full explanation without saying easiest start in years.

            Oh, you can’t, clever boys.

          • aaron says:

            Realist apart from attacking no sheep, what fills your day?

            Dreaming the team you support not being successful just so you can tell everyone ‘ told you, told you Rodgers is no good’? Well well done you realist (unsure why you don’t reveal your real name ‘ realist’). Oh by the way, being called boring by you makes my day, have you read your last thousand posts?? We have… Zzzzzzz (fu cking)zzzz. However, supporting a manager who is currently second is better than believing in Mourinho or other more vastly experienced managers, AT THIS CURRENT TIME.

            You guys think repeating yourselves and continually berating no sheep makes you clever. Awesome, gold stars to you.

            Now, tell us if you appreciate being second over tenth at this time of year??

            Any insult will show you up as not a full supporter, just answer the fu c king question!

          • realist says:

            Yaaawwwwnnnnn Aaron . F+++ing yawn.

            Do you really think im interested in discussing football with someone like you ? Or that someone like you could change my opinion ?

            You need to get out more , get some real friends to talk with.

            I enjoy taking the pi55 out of no sheep because I honestly have never found anyone as unbelievably thick as him. He cracks me up with his insane logic

            As troll hunter says -your just boring aaron

          • aaron says:

            Realist if I were you, firstly I’d re scale the size of my di ck and start telling the truth, whilst your at that you should take your dress back to the fancy dress shop and start being more manly, if you’re gonna give it all the big un!!

            Can’t answer one simple question without hiding behind some tirade of nonsense.

            WHAT’S WRONG WITH BEING SECOND?

            For months you have tediously informed us of your lack of knowledge, again… Just answer the fu cking question? Simple you ‘deluded’ arse face.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha hs hs ha ha ga ha ha

            Aaron is desperate to discuss football with little ole me ? Ha ha hs ha

            Get out more aaron like I said . If your that sad that your berating a complete stranger to talk to you then you need mates.

            You bore me , I know exactly the rubbish you always spout . I couldn’t be arsed discussing football with you .

            PS. I never said there was anything wrong with 2nd its just that fools like you make presumptions

  • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

    So ‘no sheep’ on another article moaned that ‘previous managers didnt give Sterling & Wisdom more games’! Those lads would have been about 16 & 17 back then! As if any manager would have thrown such young lads straight into the first team. Embarassing ‘debating’ from no sheep. Think first mate!

    • No sheep says:

      You a joke lad you really are,

      • realist says:

        Ha ha ha . That is funny . No sheep is the biggest joke on here and he has the gall to call someone else a joke.

        Ignore the kid no sheep Diego.. This is the same moron who thinks Liverpool are better off without Suarez.

      • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

        Oh im a joke, is that your intelligent response no sheep? This debate has clearly been too much for you.

        • No sheep says:

          To much for me, no that’s not it at all. More to do with the fact I had replayed to your post, and you chose to ignore my response.
          So sterling was to young when playing under other managers, rodgers played him at 17 his birthday is in December.
          Suso was to young under other managers, rodgers played him when he was 18 he turned 19 last November and will turn 20 in a few days.
          Wisdom was 20 in May so he was 19 all last season.
          Under Kenny, sterling 16/17,wisdom 18, suso,17/18.
          So let’s recap you listed players who’s careers have gone backwards under Rodgers.
          Sterling,suso and wisdom were some of those players. Yes
          I asked you how their careers have gone backwards when they didn’t get any real game time before rodgers. Yes
          To which you replied above those guys were 16/17 no manager would have thrown such young lads in to the first team. Yes.
          Now at the start of my post you will see that they were given first team games by Rodgers, sterling at 17, Wisdom was 19 all last season while suso 18/19.
          Sterling came on as a sub 3 times for Kenny while he made 36 appearances under Rodgers.
          Wisdom made his debut under Rodgers and player a total of 19 games last season.
          Suso also made his debut under Rodgers and played a total of 20 games.
          So now that we know your, they were to young under other managers theory is like the rest of your posts a load of crap. HOW HAVE THEY GONE BACKWARDS UNDER RODGERS?

          ” Embarassing ‘debating’ from no sheep. Think first mate!”
          You are right about one part of that comment!

          • realist says:

            Embarrassingly stupid as always by no sheep.

            Shelvey , Flanagan , Robinson , and sterling were all given chances under Dalglish . All have gone backwards under Rodgers after promising starts.

            Kelly was doing fantastic under Dalglish , now despite being fully fit all season he doesn’t play.

            Only really wisdom and suso were put forward by Rodgers , and BOTH were dumped by him when he strengthen the squad last January. Sterling was overused and as a result suffered badly under Rodgers.

            Promising talents like Morgan ,Smith , Ngoo , McLaughlin etc (ever heard of them ? ) have been disregarded completely by Rodgers.

            Your lack of football knowledge no sheep is astounding.

          • No sheep says:

            You know I don’t reply to you AKI so why bother posting your blind sided views.

            Waiting for your reply digger, or will you try and pull the same trick and post the reply somewhere else.

          • realist says:

            No sheep you crack me up with your stupidity. You talk about ages , like players are ready to play at a certain age ?

            Errr duh . Newsflash **** some players are ready at 17 some aren’t ready until 19/20 .

            Do you actually know anything about football ? I realize you dont know much but surely the sentence above is common sense ?

          • No sheep says:

            I was not the one who brought up ages of players AKI.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ya ha

            You didn’t bring up the age of players ? Ha ha ha
            Your whole nonsense post was rambling on about age of players.

          • No sheep says:

            Try reading from the top down, that is how the posts normally line up from oldest to newest. Now who brought up players age first. If you still think it is me then you are a muppet along with a lot of other things AKI. I notice you have no come back for me calling you AKI. Do you even know what it means

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha

            The little clown no sheep has found a little childish name to call me .

            Whether Diego mentioned ages or not doesnt matter , you still blathered on about it like it had some relevance.

            I am still waiting for just intelligent comment from no sheep.

            Usually it’s – Suarez is not that good
            Or Wilshire is not a arsenal 1st teamer
            Or idiotic rumblings about FFP (ha ha ha )

            Can’t wait for the next pearl of idiocy.

          • realist says:

            ..or the best one yet – if you call someone irish even though that person IS ACTUALLY Irish. According to no sheep – that’s racist !!

            Hahaha ha ha ha hs haha haha

          • Diego 'Digger' Souness says:

            Oh God so no sheep shoots himself in the foot again. We were never gonna see teenagers thrown into the first team at that age. You are completely deluded. Most kids need time to grow or it could hamper their futures with injuries.

          • Patrick says:

            I don’t know why you guys bother with No sheep. He is a 24 carat c@bbage. You should ignore people like that .

          • No sheep says:

            I’m done with you red aki.

          • No sheep says:

            Mr digger do you suffer from some sort of attention problem?

            Once again.

            You. Kids have gone backwards under Rodgers.

            Me. How have they gone backwards when they didn’t get any real game time before Rodgers.

            You. They were 16/17 under Rodgers, no manager would play them at that age.

            Me. Under Kenny. Sterling 16/17. (3) games. Suso. 17/18 (0). Wisdom 18 (0)
            Under rodgers sterling 17/18. (36). Suso. 18/19 (20) Wisdom 19 (19).
            (Cause you seem to have a problem reading my post, rodgers played sterling 36 times last season, even tho sterling was still younger last season then suso and wisdom were the season before. Which shows rodgers has more faith in the kids,)

            NOW IN CAPITALS.

            HOW HAVE THE KIDS GONE BACKWARDS UNDER RODGER?
            Even your argument of they were not old enough to play, if true, still does not show how they have gone backwards under Rodgers. If your not gonna answer this one I give up on ye.

          • realist says:

            INot only are you stupid sheep , but you seem to have lost the ability to read .

            How have the kids gone backwards under Rodgers ?

            I’ll put this in capitals for you

            READ MY POST ABOVE . ITS IN PLAIN ENGLISH AND I DIDNT USE ANY BIG WORDS SO EVEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND

            No sheep . Your getting more stupid by the week

          • realist says:

            No sheep . Ignoring or responding to me makes no difference. Either way I never get an intelligentresponse , so I wouldn’t even notice the difference.

            I’ve engaged with teenagers , small dumb kids , ignorant adults , but I have never , and I mean NEVER conversed with someone as dumb as you.

          • No sheep says:

            Once you comment again under another one of your aliases red aki I will reply, you do know you are posting under red aki.

            Also aki means someone who is just along for the ride, with no true commitment to the cause. Does that sound like you red aki.

          • No sheep says:

            Once you comment under another one of your aliases I will reply.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha ha ha . Little no sheep gets everything mixed up again . Why would I post under a different name ? And who am I supposed to be ?

            No sheep is so dumb . With one post he says he won’t respond , with the next he responds . ???

            Confused ? No sheep seems confused about everything.

            You crack me up. I and am sure quite a few others come on here just to laugh at your stupidity.

            Ha ha ha ha hahaha ha ha ha haha ha ha haha hah ha hahaha

          • realist says:

            Im starting to worry about your mental health (or lack of it ) little no sheep

            Your becoming more and more erratic and confused.

  • Denis D says:

    The thing is true real fans who actually know anything about football, will know that our current squad is nowhere near good enough to compete for top 4.

    If it was our first 11 week in week out without injuries or suspensions then yeah we would be able to, but there will be injuries and suspensions thats why the best teams in world football have good squads.

    We had G Johnson, Enrique and Coutinho out of team for few weeks and in certain games struggled without these three. If our club was to lose Gerrard, Sturridge and Suarez at same time. Would we still be challenging for top 4? No

    So our squad is nowhere near Top 4 class,quality: But if everyone is fully fit and injury free then our first 11 is a match for any side in the league, but over course of season , injuries, illnesses, Suspensions, Some players Girlfriend’s Or Wives having kids, so there will be times where the first 11 players will not always be available.

    We have too many dead wood average players club who need to be sold and shipped out between January and the summer:

    1: GK: B Jones 2: CB: S Coates 3: RB: J Flanagan

    4: RB: Kelly ( Injury Prone/Sick note) 5: RW / RWF: Assaidi 6: AM: Alberto

    7: FD: Aspas 8: FD: Borini

    That is 8 players that offer the club and their opposition team mates little class, competition for their places on a regularly basis.

    Our club is 10 class, quality players short of good class quality squad:

    Rodgers needs to stop wasting millions on potential and hope: He needs to start bringing attackers of Coutinho, Gerrard, Sturridge and Suarez’s class and calibre to side.

    For club to make top 4 this year i keep mentioning the owners will need to back B Rodgers well as in even Southampton spent 50M in the summer just gone and now look at the force they have become: In January the owners need to give B Rodgers 50-75M to bring in 6 players.

    A minimum of 4 players though, but 6 players is whats needed: But if Rodgers is only allowed to bring in 4 players these are the 4 class, quality players in these key positions that will improve the side and bring more quality competition for places, depth, mobility, pace and speed to the squad.

    1: DM: M’Vila(23) Of Rubin Kazan needs to be brought to club in January to compete and cover Lucas

    2: CM: Class, Creative/Offensive Centre Midfidler with mobility: Y Cabaye(27) Of Newcastle should be brought to club in January

    3: RW /RWF: M Salah(21) Of Basel Or J Montero(23) Of Monarcas Morelia in Mexico, one of these quick pacey skilful wide men needs to be brought to club in January

    4: LW / LWF: B Arfa(26) Of Newcastle or D Capel(25) Of Sporting Clube De Portugal, one of these quick pacey skilful Left footed wide men need to be brought to the club in January

    These 4 players would help make team top 1-3 side this season

    And with Cabaye(27) and M’Vila(23) the club would have two class, quality centre midfielders who can step in team sraight away when fully fit and injury free, then our captain S G can get the much needed rest he needs . And he can be used wisely during course of the season

    If Rodgers brings these 4 players to the club in January: we could have strong line up with S Gerrard rested:

    Best team now when everyone is fully fit:
    In 3 5 2 formation:
    Mignolet GK
    Skrtel RCB Agger CB Sakho LCB
    Johnson RWB Gerrard CM Lucas DM Henderson CM Enrique LWB
    FD Suarez FD Sturridge

    In 4 1 2 1 2 Formation:
    Mignolet GK
    RB Johnson CB Skrtel CB Agger LB Enrique
    DM Lucas
    CM Gerrard CM Henderson
    AM Coutinho
    FD Sturridge FD Suarez

    With the 4 players mentioned brought to squad hopefully in January while resting S Gerrard in 4 1 2 1 2:
    Mignolet GK
    RB Johnson CB Skrtel CB Agger LB Enrique
    DM M’Vila
    CM Allen CM Cabaye
    AM Coutinho
    FD: Sturridge FD: Suarez

    With 4 players mentioned brought to squad hoepfeully in January while resting S Gerrard in 4 4 2:
    Mignolet GK
    RB Johnson CB Skrtel CB Agger LB Enrique
    DM M’Vila CM Cabaye
    RW Salah / Montero LW Arfa/ Capel
    FD Suarez FD Sturridge

    • realist says:

      I do agree that the squad is weak and I agree with most of what you say , except

      – Allen should have no place at our club . Awful player
      – Kelly is one of the best young defenders in the country and must be kept

      • Denis D says:

        Realist, Allen is descent player. Just like Henderson, they are both young, mobile, have a bit of pace to them in centre of park but they are both too cautious and both melt in front of goal and look like headless chicken when good opportunity in front of goal arises.

        Kelly like Aurelio is a class good quality player but he is out on treatment table for 80% of every season, injury prone/sick note/ liabilty and not reliable due to the fact he is in the treatment room more than he plays.

        And that is why G Johnson has had no real class competition for his place for years now, as kelly has been out injured for so long, then when he plays for the equivalent of a mth during whole season. Then he is out injured for the next 8 months, so what is the point.

        Kelly needs to be sold and shipped out with the other 7 dead wood average players, Allen is not dead wood . He is a good footballer, he just needs to be more confident in his ability, more consistant, more creative and braver on the ball and take more risks then he will excel in side.

      • aaron says:

        Not sure Kelly is one of the best young defenders in the league, lack of pace stands out for one.

        Unsure of his position etc. Coates was viewed as the best youngster and look what happened to him, Babel also viewed as an exceptional young talent, again what happened to him. Mark Kennedy, the list goes on…

        At 23 he cannot be considered young anymore, Rooney did it at that age, as did Fowler, Owen and many more.
        Injuries have hindered him but if he was really that good he’d have walked back into the team.

        Who would you have him replace currently??

    • aaron says:

      Yet since January we are currently competing, maybe not enough to win the thing but is competing!!

    • Ozred says:

      Why do u feel the need to do this? Do u think we missed it in any of your other 600 posts?

      • troll hunter says:

        As long as the troll trolls , I will continue to troll the troll.

        • aaron says:

          Explain how having an opinion is trolling?

          You know what don’t bother.

          Anything to say about football today?

          • troll hunter says:

            Idiot . Still trolling ?

          • aaron says:

            Very insightful. Now, is that the 4 2 3 1 with flipped triangle or the 3 5 2 wing back formation?

          • troll hunter says:

            No one cares Aaron. Your just a troll.

          • aaron says:

            You honestly make make hurl in my mouth.

            Just reading your tripe is enough to set it off!!

            I’m pleased we are second… ARE YOU.

            I’ll read your answer tomorrow with the same contempt I’ve read every other, vile posting of yours.

            Good luck meeting a woman, behind every great man is a woman. Behind every poxy ‘ realist ‘ is a sad, lonely, PlayStation loving old man.

            Sleep well you pleb.

            Do you know what pleb means or do you want me to ha hs ha, spell it out for you!!

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

            Look at this little kid Aaron. I have done nothing all night except laugh at his immature comments.

            He has done everything he could to try and insult me. Calling names , making silly immature accusations , silly immature presumptions eg. ‘good luck meeting a woman ‘
            ‘ im getting laid more than you ‘
            HOW CHILDISH IS THAT ?????

            But the saddest thing of all ? The really really saddest thing ?
            He was desperate to have a talk with someone who finds him too boring to talk to . That is pathetic. To spend 2 hours tryin to coerce a stranger into discussion. NOW THAT IS SAD

          • troll hunter says:

            Aaron the boring troll at it again

            Idiot

  • realist says:

    I find troll hunter extremely insightful and very informative.

    • aaron says:

      Because your a plank, simples.

      • realist says:

        Ha hs ha ha ha . Troll Hunter gets proved right again !

        • aaron says:

          And you can’t even spell ha ha ha without a mistake and we’re supposed to take you seriously.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha ha

            Aaron thinks I can’t spell ha . Ha ha ha ha

            What a clown

          • aaron says:

            But you couldn’t, the proof is front of your eyes.

            Still hasn’t answered the question.

            Some ‘ realist ‘ you are.

          • realist says:

            Troll hunter where are you ? Sort this fool out.

            Sad no mates Aaron is so sad and desperate he is trying to make an issue out of me mis-typing HA

            Now really ? HOW SAD IS THAT ?

            Ha ha ha hs …ooops I did it again. What a loser you are Aaron

          • aaron says:

            But at least I can spell. Can you? And now you want someone else to fight your battles!!

            What sort of child are you. Do you not enjoy being second? What team do you really support..?

            Also how is being a clown an insult? Better than being a fuc king fake fan, like other ‘ realists ‘ I wish I didn’t have the displeasure of sharing a forum with.

            Second and crying, good boy, you have obviously been taught very well.

          • aaron says:

            And how can he sort me out, by copying and pasting again for the millionth time, awesome back up.

            Now put your manure shirt back on and go to bed you extremely educated person.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha hs hs ha ha

            Little Aaron with no mates is STILL desperate to have a conversation with me .

            He is STILL trying to pretend I can’t spell HA . Ha ha ha hahaha hahahaha ha ha ha ha

            Poor little Aaron , still boring everyone.

            Ha ha ha hs ha

          • realist says:

            Ha hs hs ha ha

            The old ‘your a manure fan ‘ insult little aaron gives to people he disagrees with.

            Unbelievably childish
            – He calls people man u fans
            – He pretends they can’t spell ha
            – He tries to insult everyone who doesnt agree with his sad opinions
            – He accuses people of ‘crying’ when he is the one moaning all night

            You really have proved troll Hunter totally right.

          • aaron says:

            I am desperate to have a conversation with you, someone has to provide you with an education.

            I’ve done it for free.

            You’re welcome by the way! ‘realist’

            2nd 2nd 2nd. I said it three times because I know it pains you so much.

            Stick to your own club’s forum. How are manure doing by the way?

          • aaron says:

            My name is realist yet I can’t reveal my ‘ real’ name.

            How can we take you seriously you tos ser?

            Please tell us, but before you do, what team do you really support, evidently it’s not Liverpool.

          • realist says:

            Ha Ha ha ha ha

            Sad no mates aaron is so sad not only does he want me to discuss football with him , he wants to know my name . What’s next ? Exchange phone numbers ? Ha ha ha ha ha

            You really need to get out more

            And look ANOTHER childish attempt at a insult . ‘you don’t support Liverpool’ ha hs ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha

          • aaron says:

            Yeah I do want your number ‘Shirley’ then I can help you be a fan.

            Might also introduce you to women. You know what they are right, or do you need your mate ‘Troll Hunter’ to copy and paste that for you too.

            I’ll wait for Mr TH to reply, seeing as he’s now your spokesman.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha ha

            On top of all the other childish attempts at insulting , little aaron now tries to insult by callingme a girl name . Ha ha ha ha

            How many childish insults is that in one night ?

            Isn’t that what TROLLS do ? Ha ha ha ha ha hahaha ha hahaha ha ha

          • aaron says:

            That is what trolls do, never said I wasn’t one, said I troll the trolls like a real ‘ Troll Hunter ‘ not some charlatan.

            now go and read every post no sheep has left, almost directly underneath is a mild trolling by you Shirley.

            We all, some, do it, no issue, matters not as generally it’s quite fun. If you can take it. All adults here, I’m assuming you have now left nursery. Nevermind. Your using a device so let’s just say yes.

            Now if we can just get you into a red shirt and teach you the song we all sing, start and end of matches, you might, just might, Switch teams. Just a thought.

            By the way, do you like being second? A simple yes or NO (in your case).

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha ha . Little Aaron STILL wants to discuss football with me .

            Surely there is someone you can talk to , if your that desperate.

            So even a complete stranger on the internet tells you that you are boring , and he has no interest in discussion with you , and you continue to be desperate and ask him to talk to you !!

            Wow. How.sad can you get Aaron ?

            At least you actually admitted your a troll , not that anyone could doubt it .

          • aaron says:

            Yes very sad but not so sad I refuse to answer simple questions.

            How sad? ‘ realist ‘ sad. Ha ha (copy paste) Ha ha.

            Wow, that was easy when you know how.

            The saddest part is we are doing ok and you’re ‘ upset ‘. Why is this. Actually don’t bother, I’m just about to get laid again, night night, SADDO.

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha hs ha

            Very mature . Oooh ‘im getting laid ‘ ha ha ha ha ha ya hahaha . Isn’t that what nearly every 14 year old does? ‘im getting laid’ ha ha ha ha ha . What a clown.

            He gets upset because I won’t talk football with him . Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

          • realist says:

            Can you imagine if Aaron actually had a girlfriend , that it wasn’t the usual teenage waffle.

            Imagine it was actually true , and he is with her . He has just spent the last 2 hours trying to have a conversation with a complete stranger who thinks he is too boring to talk to .

            How sad is THAT ? Ha haha hs ha ha ha ha ha

            How immature is that ?

          • aaron says:

            Yes I’m 14 and getting laid more than you.

            You’re not worthy of football speak, you despicable little fake named person.

            Can’t answer one question but spend all your time pretending to be superior.

            The Samaritans can help you, if not, you can always copy and paste ha ha, or how did you spell it… ha hs ha, for the rest of your petulant little life.

            In all seriousness, thanks for the laughs, it’s been mildly fun, if very uneventful,

          • aaron says:

            Now imagine I didn’t steal your girlfriend, don’t get upset, I said imagine.

            I’m also a clown making her laugh for the first time in years, rather than always crying, knowing she’s waking up with your banality again.

            How childish ‘ realist ‘ childish. Ha hs ha. Now your idiocy has made me misspell the easiest of phrases. I’ll never live this down, unless I come to your house, in which case, I’ll be treated like a God!!

          • realist says:

            Ha ha ha ha

            The immature Aaron would rather talk to me than his pretend woman . Ha hs ha ha

            Can anyone imagine being so sad that you would try to talk to someone who has no interest in talking back ? Sad

            He cries because I won’t talk to him
            He makes up immature names
            He accuses a stranger of all kinds of made up immature stuff.
            He does the whole immature teenager ‘ive got a girl’ thing

            Ha ha hs ha ha ha ha . I dont think little Aaron can get any sadder.

          • realist says:

            Ha hs haha ha ha . Poor Aaron is sad because I wont talk to him . Haha ha hahaha !!

          • troll hunter says:

            I don’t think anyone can have any doubt what a boring troll Aaron is after this .

            Total idiot.

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